You correctly pointed out that my weblog’s been locked for the last few weeks,… well; mostly correctly. I turned off open comments because of a sudden high volume of spam that I had to wade through. Anyone can comment if they register (this is free BTW.)
However I have just turned open commenting back on, I’ve “unlocked� my blog Alfred.
I’ll alert the media…
alienview@adelphia.net
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Hey, Do that OK Al?
Just, whatever you do……
DON”T GIVE AWAY MY SECRIT IDENTITY!!!!
Anything but that!
Jeez dude… …consider.
Who wants to know who you really are? You’re a mere germ of many _other_ expendable germs prosecuting for a short focus status quo and ironically guilty of what you would accuse. Illogic, infidelity, inconstancy, non-bravery et sig al…
Your only validation is another expendable such as myself reluctantly slapping you around in your own public forum… …or the very infrequent like-minded *germ* apparently higher on the food chain of your aspirations, who USEs you as packing fodder for their own dodgy support… pretty sad.
That said… you *sneer*, skippy. Yes you do.
Along with smirks and other proud looks? I hate a sneer… wanna know why empers?
Because I hate _to_ sneer, and a sneer provokes the same in me. I sneer at those who would sneer and you tie all that up in a drab package with a saggy bow. Being made to sneer pisses me off… you gotta pay, dude.
…Try to remember all this as our little teapot tempest escalates and more and more of our flesh ends up on the arena floor, and know that you had the option, you’ll recall, of keeping this between “old friends” but that you had to seek your… oh… I guess we’ll call it a “consensus”… pity.
Oh — remember years ago when the very first thing you did on initial contact was to spit in my face, emps? You only reap what you sow, eh skippers?
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EMPY: Alfred;
Lehmberg: Yeah. That’s going to be “Mr. Lehmberg”, skippers. …You give me a surname and I’ll do you the same courtesy. I don’t ordinarily show respect to sneering anonomoids, as you know. Thanks…
EMPY: I make you sneer, you hate people who sneer so now I’m responsible for you hating yourself?
Lehmberg: Astonishing! In your own slap-dash-shallow-end-of-the-pool way you have almost managed some real cut-to-the-chase cognition. Pity you don’t use it for yourself and more often…
Lehmberg: Except… …as is your usual way, you took the pieces of what I said and only made them over into something you thought you could cleverly use. Left out? The impetus! The provenance! The genesis!
Lehmberg: What provoked my sneer? What’s facilitated my *alleged* self-loathing? What assists this unfortunate loathing I have (and have always had) for you? Why, that would have to be your initial leering mockery, your uninformed debunkery, your baselessly unjustified hubris, and your clueless intellectual cowardice… of course.
EMPY: How about this one insted.
Lehmberg: How about -this- one instead: http://www.iespell.com/ … you’re welcome.
EMPY: “take some ownership of your feeling and you will own yourself.�
Lehmberg: So, your weblog is clearing house for rejected fortune-cookie saws? Moreover, taking “ownership” for what you have sullenly instigated is ludicrous… …but for your sake, empers? I’ll try.
EMPY: And; once again.
Lehmberg: I’m sure you’ve mentioned *something* for your loyal legions of fans, but there was no *once before* for me. Astonishingly, I’m not an avid follower of your… ah… exploits.
EMPY: If you don’t like something on the Odd Empire you can always discuss a change.
Lehmberg: Yeah! We can form a committee and write white papers and do an in depth study!
EMPY: You are correct that this little teapot could escalate, but that’s a personal choice too.
Lehmberg: Nope… some things are just thrust upon you and one just begs to have the tannin boiled from their dry little bags. The choice, I remind you, was yours.
EMPY: Do we sneer and deride people we don’t care for or do we attempt to show a little grace?
Lehmberg: There’s a little irony from the “officious emperor”, right there. I’m sure there’ll be at least one per your end of the exchange… as meager as these exchanges prove to be… the first ten words of the immediately explicated were characteristic of ~your~ domain, empers. A projection — that is to say… a psychological device, a crutch for dodgy self-serving cognitions and their attendant smarmy smirks…
Lehmberg: Grace, empers? Grace? You’ve yet to show any, yourself, and bereft of same, you demand it from others? Kinda pathetic, eh…?
Lehmberg: Hey, did I say all that without sounding like a bad fortune cookie?
alienview@adelphia.net
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King Al sez…
“Along with smirks and other proud looks? I hate a sneer… wanna know why empers?
Lehmberg: Mr. Lehmberg, Emps. You have as much trouble with a simple request as you do using a simple spell checker… …even when a free one is handed to you on a plate?
“Because I hate to sneer, and a sneer provokes the same in me. I sneer at those who would sneer and you tie all that up in a drab package with a saggy bow. Being made to sneer pisses me off… you gotta pay, dude.”
Let’s see; I make you sneer, you hate to sneer, you find yourself sneering at yourself and that pisses you off. I have to pay for that. That is exactly what you said or is there some other meaning?
Lehmberg: Yep — your cut an paste skills are adequate to the task even as your literary skills are not. Your explication is the drab package with the saggy bow, empers, and you’ll pay because your begging for same. You know, I’m beginning to suspect that you’re getting off on having somebody slap the bubbles out of your nose. Is that the case? Are you an abuse woodie? Is that it?
I was using a little cognition certainly–simply acknowledging your own public (internationally echoed statement) that you are not in control of yourself.
Lehmberg: Ahh! Internationally acclaimed! …And Mom said I’d never be any good! Maybe, empers, some of these good persons so concerned about “control issues” will come in and give you a hand taking me down. You’ll need the help. You’re right about one thing though, you use precious little cognition.
I was also gently suggesting that you get a grip and stop blaming others for your emotional state.
Lehmberg: Gently? You’re as gentle (and as subtle) as loose brick in a Bendix rotating dishwasher, dude! I’m not blaming others, empie, I’m just blaming -you-, presently. Mentioning others is calling out to others and we’re alone in here, hoss. Alone. Moreover, the “grip” I have is fine for what I have for you in mind, emps. A perp walk to a long distance literary wedgie, face first and asprawl out in the cyber street. …What you signed up for! I want to see you get your money’s worth. You lit this candle skippy. Sorry the light’s not flattering.
I don’t think that’s out of line, under the circumstances.
Lehmberg: The first three words ring the bell, emps, but you wouldn’t appreciate “circumstance” if it crawled up your prolapsed pore and died. Emps? You redefine out of line… and before we’re through here… I suspect you’ll be aware of just how far off the beam you’ve really been.
Regarding grace; I’m not demanding grace or anything else from you. Not grace, not respect, not obedience, not deference, not revenge and not validation.
Lehmberg: That’s right! Keep the expectation low to preclude your eventual and inevitable disappointment.
I don’t need any of those things from you. You however are demonstrating just how many of those things you require from me.
Lehmberg: Bravo! Your abilities with regard to psychological projection are exceeding all bounds! Keep it up to have your own chapter in an Abnormal psych book… verily. …And, how’s that sneer, emps? Seems decidedly crooked and a little sweat beading up on the top lip, skipper… Don’t worry, though, I’ll stop before you cry… or have some -other- kind of emission alluded to earlier… in the former because I’ve an once of empathy, even for you, in the latter because it’s NOT what I signed up for.
Lehmberg: How about -this- one instead: http://www.iespell.com/ … you’re welcome.
(1) ad hominem (abusive): instead of attacking an assertion, the argument attacks the person who made the assertion.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/attack.htm
Lehmberg: More facile projection! If you’ll remember, empy, you started all this years ago as a result of attacking the man when you couldn’t get a grip on the man’s argument. You’ll make no points in this debate accusing your opponent of what you yourself are -abundantly- guilty of.
No, thank you!
Lehmberg: Too late for that now, emps… the moving finger rights and having writ moves on. Hurry back!
alienview@adelphia.net
http://www.AlienView.net
AVG Blog — http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/
Oooo! Latin! Impressive! Though, not very communicational… not your strong suit I suspect.
Proof? Here, Nymrod, from Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:27 AM:
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Well — there we have it. An artless, insulting, and
inauspicious little assessment from one that must not know that
when he points -one- finger of ignorant accusation, he invariably
points -three- back at himself. This is forgetting, of course,
that all your taste may only be your mouth, sir. I trust this
was “understandable” enough?
…and -thanks- for reading.
Lehmberg@snowhill.com
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What others see from afar, I leave far behind me.”
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> Your webpage Alien Views Forum has been inducted into
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> Boy I’ll say, not the ones from outer space mind you
> but the really strange views from inside a person’s
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Alfred;
I make you sneer, you hate people who sneer so now I’m responsible for you hating yourself?
How about this one instead.
“take some ownership of your feeling and you will own yourself.
And; once again. If you don’t like something on the Odd Empire you can always discuss a change. You are correct that this little teapot could escalate, but that’s a personal choice too. Do we sneer and deride people we don’t care for or do we attempt to show a little grace?
Sweetums — have you locked your blog again? …Can’t seem to get in on your last screed? _Is_ there a problem?
I think you write uninspired stuff; I think your page is stupid. I think you have a dearth of the _remotest_ idea. It’s like looking into the mind of no brain at all. Any AHs THERE sweetums? What-is-_your_-freaking-problem? Hummmm?
alienview@adelphia.net
http://www.AlienView.net
AVG Blog — http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/
I think you write uninspired stuff; I think your page is stupid. I think you have a dearth of the remotest idea. It’s like looking into the mind of no brain at all.
Yes, that’s about the size of it Al.
You should stop now, this is getting embarrassing!
Al? LOL!
Mr. Lehmberg… I’ve been -quite- clear.
…Nonsense, spooters! We’re just warming this up… seeing how wide the burst needs to be… mere range testing… checking our sabers… it’s just now starting to get interesting…
It remains that your site is a locus for serial mockery without the remotest style, depth or composition, an officious cyber-scold merely pretending to be something that it is not, and is the provenance of the “embarrassment” you bemoan. A webpage GWB…
And you know… Unprovoked… it would never have _occured_ to me to point that out to you cold without so much as a how you do (and in a smirky, kiss-my-ass, and insulting manner)… but you handily demonstrate that that’s the way you like to do business… …so be it!
What has gone around has indeed come around, empers. Breaks over, skippy! …Back on your pointy little head.
You offend me emp! Your embarrassment is… unfortunate, but entirely your own. I share -none- of it. You’re just reaping what you sow, skips… you could have had it any other way. Why, we might even have had a synergy, but you have this disturbing preference for sneering… …which is really pretty non-constructive on balance… …a rational person would agree, I suspect.
SouthPark re-runs are on soon… time for little empies to snug on into their fetid little beds at the end of a long trying day… …to see you on the morrow, dahling? Kiss!
alienview@adelphia.net
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AVG Blog — http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/
No Al honey, that’s not exactly what I meant.
It remains that your site is a locus for serial mockery without the remotest style, depth or composition, an officious cyber-scold merely pretending to be something that it is not, and is the provenance of the “embarrassment� you bemoan. A webpage GWB…
…So? You were going to critique it then?
And you know… Unprovoked… it would never have occured to me to point that out to you cold without so much as a how you do (and in a smirky, kiss-my-ass, and insulting manner)… but you handily demonstrate that that’s the way you like to do business… …so be it!
Good! Making progress here.
You offend me emp! Your embarrassment is… unfortunate, but entirely your own. I share -none- of it. You’re just reaping what you sow, skips… you could have had it any other way. Why, we might even have had a synergy, but you have this disturbing preference for sneering… …which is really pretty non-constructive on balance… …a rational person would agree, I suspect.
Um, no Al, I’m not embarrassed and I wasn’t talking about myself. As for rational; you would be an example of rational then? ….!
(sorry, I just snarfed on my tea.)
I could have been your pal- Al! Think about it. King Al and the Odd Emperor!
Good night Al! Pleasant dreams! Sugar plumbs and all those happy things!
King Al sez…
“Along with smirks and other proud looks? I hate a sneer, wanna know why empers?
Because I hate to sneer, and a sneer provokes the same in me. I sneer at those who would sneer and you tie all that up in a drab package with a saggy bow. Being made to sneer pisses me off, you gotta pay, dude.
Let’s see; I make you sneer, you hate to sneer, you find yourself sneering at yourself and that pisses you off. I have to pay for that. That is exactly what you said or is there some other meaning?
I was using a little cognition certainly–simply acknowledging your own public (internationally echoed statement) that you are *not* in control of yourself. I was also gently suggesting that you get a grip and stop blaming others for your emotional state.
I don’t think that’s out of line, under the circumstances.
Regarding grace; I’m not demanding grace or anything else from you. Not grace, not respect, not obedience, not deference, not revenge and not validation. I don’t need any of those things from you. You however are demonstrating just how many of those things you require from me.
Lehmberg: How about -this- one instead: http://www.iespell.com/ you’re welcome.
(1) ad hominem (abusive): instead of attacking an assertion, the argument attacks the person who made the assertion.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/attack.htm
No, thank *you!*
Lehmberg: More facile projection! If you’ll remember, empy, you started all this years ago as a result of attacking the man when you couldn’t get a grip on the man’s argument. You’ll make no points in this debate accusing your opponent of what you yourself are -abundantly- guilty of.
OK King Al, here’s a difficult one.
*How* did I start this, what did I say? What am I guilty of? What was so horrible that (again, if I’m reading your correctly) are now devoting your entire existence to smacking the bubbles out of my nose etc..etc? What is your problem King Al? Do you even know? Can you even say it?
I didn’t attack you King Al, you made that up! Prove me wrong! You can no more proclaim me guilty than you can proclaim your alien friends into existence.
***
Lehmberg: The first three words ring the bell, emps, but you wouldn’t appreciate “circumstance”? if it crawled up your prolapsed pore and died. Emps? You redefine out of line and before we’re through here, I suspect you’ll be aware of just how far off the beam you’ve really been.
argumentum ad baculum
The reader is told that unpleasant consequences will follow if they do not agree with the author.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/af.htm
Lehmberg: Bravo! Your abilities with regard to psychological projection are exceeding all bounds! Keep it up to have your own chapter in an Abnormal psych book… verily. …And, how’s that sneer, emps? Seems decidedly crooked and a little sweat beading up on the top lip, skipper… Don’t worry, though, I’ll stop before you cry… or have some -other- kind of emission alluded to earlier… in the former because I’ve an once of empathy, even for you, in the latter because it’s NOT what I signed up for.
argumentum ad hominem
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/attack.htm
Lehmberg: Yep — your cut an paste skills are adequate to the task even as your literary skills are not. Your explication is the drab package with the saggy bow, empers, and you’ll pay because your begging for same. You know, I’m beginning to suspect that you’re getting off on having somebody slap the bubbles out of your nose. Is that the case? Are you an abuse woodie? Is that it?
Style Over Substance;
The manner in which an argument (or arguer) is presented is taken to affect the likelihood that the conclusion is true.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/style.htm
Yes, that’s what I wrote;
I think you write strange stuff, I think your page is ugly. I think you have weird ideas.
It’s like looking into the mind of a madman.
Al; that’s not even ad hominem.
What-is-your-freaking-problem?
EMPS: 1. No Al honey, that’s not exactly what I meant.
Lehmberg: Mr. Lehmberg… thanks. And I suspect that you really don’t have a clue what you mean. You just keep whistling passed your graveyard too uptight and unbrave to make a hard turn right toward it to face it down. Keep whistling… honey. That *Graveyard* never goes away.
It remains that your site is a locus for serial mockery without the remotest style, depth or composition, an officious cyber-scold merely pretending to be something that it is not, and is the provenance of the “embarrassment� you bemoan. A webpage GWB…
EMPS: …So? You were going to critique it then?
Lehmberg: LOL! You ~do~ like the abuse. Not only because you are buried under a anthropomorphic narcissist’s burden of inflated self-worth, but that you would legislate your cowardly little denialisms for the rest of us… exactly what you would accuse of others. Fall into line or suffer the smirky ridicule of anonymous nym-rods… not unlike yourself.
And you know… Unprovoked… it would never have occurred to me to point that out to you cold without so much as a how you do (and in a smirky, kiss-my-ass, and insulting manner)… but you handily demonstrate that that’s the way you like to do business… …so be it!
EMPS: Good! Making progress here.
Lehmberg: Awww… missed the point again? How terrible for you. See, -that- moment has passed; we may only hope for another… Oh, and by the way, your last little throw away comment there… isn’t that a loose example of one of the inductive fallacies: Unrepresentative Sample, where the sample used in an inductive inference (*progress* made?) is relevantly different from the population of experience as a whole, and so invalid support for a dodgy contention? In other words guilty of what you accuse in addition to being inappropriately flip, deliberately mocking… a portrait of impolite, faux-intellectual snobbery at its very, very best?
You offend me emp! Your embarrassment is… unfortunate, but entirely your own. I share -none- of it. You’re just reaping what you sow, skips… you could have had it any other way. Why, we might even have had a synergy, but you have this disturbing preference for sneering… …which is really pretty non-constructive on balance… …a rational person would agree, I suspect.
EMPS: Um, no Al, I’m not embarrassed and I wasn’t talking about myself. As for rational; you would be an example of rational then? ….!
Lehmberg: Keep chanting that consoling rubric that it’s me with the intimated emotional problems, scooter. The issue is that your clueless and non-constructive mockery is being reflected back at you with some small degree of resolution. _At_ you, your behavior as seen as fallacious attacks on your *earnest* person. _From_ you the same is incisively balanced wit and perfect logic. LOL!
Lehmberg: Oh by the way… wasn’t your immediately preceding an example of the Missed point fallacy “Begging the Question” where a truth of a conclusion (my mental health?) is assumed by the premises which are not remotely described.
EMPS: (sorry, I just snarfed on my tea.)
Lehmberg: I’m not surprised. Typing while drinking tea is a saturation activity for some people. Add gum chewing and you might even gouge out one of your own eyes.
EMPS: I could have been your pal- Al! Think about it. King Al and the Odd Emperor!
Good night Al! Pleasant dreams! Sugar plumbs and all those happy things!
Lehmberg: Sure. I’ll sleep great.
Lehmberg: I’m smart enough, and getting smarter. I know enough, and am finding out more. I already have a great deal of what you never sought, lost, or ever had. You’re a small man, empers, with a stunted imagination and a crippled creativity… …and lashing out at those who won’t validate your self-centered paradigm or clueless faith… … in other words… unable to soar and too fearful to cleave. More to Earth and heaven and all that… Your smirk precludes my feeling in any way, overly, sorry for you.
Too much style over substance, poots? Don’t you just -wish- that were actually true? Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
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Al, whatever;
You want to cry and whine about how the Odd Emperor insulted you, offended you. How I make you into what you loath. How out of control your life is.
Good Al–fine Al, you behave like a jerk. You lose control for little or no reason. I insulted you? Good! I offended you? Excellent! I wasn’t even trying!
Look (world) how easy it was for the Odd Emperor to make Alfred Lehmberg lose it. Watch world while he rants and raves.
Look how he rails at the Odd Emperor. Like an impudent puppet.
Feh indeed!